After using the room of spirit and time Piccolo became way stronger than Cell fused with 17 during the Cell Games. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast, A subreddit for all things Dragon Ball! Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. His power was far greater than either piccolo or kami’s. Piccolo is one of the most vital characters in the Dragon Ball Universe. By this I mean after he fused with Kami and after Goku had awakened but before he trained in the Hyperbolic Chamber basically during the time where they were discussing the idea of going to use the Hyperbolic Chamber was he greater power level wise than Goku because Vegeta already said he was to him even as a SSJ discord.gg/dbz, Press J to jump to the feed. The Demon King Piccolo created an egg when he was defeated by Goku. Piccolo's merging with Kami is slightly different from the earlier one with Nail, what happened with Nail was a traditional Namekian Fusion between separate entities, but Piccolo and Kami are spiritually linked because they are both sourced from the same Namekian. Oh, hell no. He knew he had to reach a certain level of skill and strength to kill Goku, which was his motivation. Also fusions tend to increase the power a lot. Summary. While standing alone, Nail asked him about getting a house or job, though Piccolo responded to the latter question by stating that his appearance would hinder his ability t… Hold up, clearly their name was Kamiccolo. He could feel the love, and desire to protect Namek along with the burning fury and hatred towards Frieza for ruining their race. level 1 The attack he fired at cell 17 had to dodge and barely did so even though it wasn't aimed directly at him. The good half then became Kami. 18vwas weaker than 17 so we know by extension he's certainly stronger than her at least. This greatly improves Piccolo's power level, but doesn't seem to have much effect on his persona or influence on the Dragon Balls. To enable Verizon Media and our partners to process your personal data select 'I agree', or select 'Manage settings' for more information and to manage your choices. Piccolo Junior is the son of The original Demon King Piccolo. Fusion isn't just additive, it multiplies power as well. Post by TheUltimateVegito » Sun Mar 16, 2014 1:05 pm We know Kamiccolo is an incredibly powerful warrior, but are there any official statements as to why he's so strong? This is the reason why he was put on a spaceship and sent to Earth. As Piccolo talked to Kami about fusing the more Kami thought it was a good idea. He was out of action for the majority of it bc he was afflicted w/ the hear He wears dark blue shoes as well. Cookies help us deliver our Services. This has been on my mind for awhile now. Was Piccolo's Power Level Superior to Goku's after he fused with Kami? After a humiliating defeat at the hands of Android 17 and Android 18, Piccolo journeys to Kami's Lookout, fusing with his old nemesis, Kami, to form a Super Namek.With this fusion came all of Kami's power and wisdom, propelling Piccolo, temporarily, to the strongest being in … ... You guys were screwing up the categories and other edits so I had to step in. Piccolo got a huge power boost when he fused with Neil, so if you add to that the original half of piccolo you get another great boost. Same when he fused with Nail, if … Power level (Dragon Ball) 05:44, 17 February 2007 (UTC) As a Super Namek, his figure doesn't change, but his power, strength and speed are greatly enhanced. Piccolo and Kami was the same general situation in terms of a considerable power boost beyond simple addition, as Piccolo was already "strong for not being a Super Saiyan" by that point. Piccolo was nowhere near the super saiyans before fusing with Kami. PERFECT POWER LEVEL LIST Wiki is a FANDOM TV Community. He also stated in the dbm official novel that between these 20 years gap after the end of DBZ until this tournament he made some little improvements, he now thinks he is capable of beating a Cell jr. with a le… "Fine." When Kami and Piccolo Jr finally reunited, with piccolo being much stronger than the original Daimao, the reborn true Namekian regained his true power that was lost to him. However, with Nail's thoughts and feelings fusing with him along with his power had changed Piccolo internally. Is there a rule about Namekian fusion that I missed? Probably for the fusion its not relevant that kami was old and he gets the same power boost as if kami was in his prime. after the defeat of Android 19, Future Trunks returns from the future to warn them that the Androids that they have been fighting so far are not the ones that he mention. This profile covers the Toei version of Piccolo adapted from his Manga Counterpart, it includes all of the Dragon Ball Z Movies, Anime, and even Dragon Ball GT.. 17. He wears a white robe with a blue collar. Kami couldn't match piccolo because he was very old but if he was in his prime maybe the fight would have been a lot closer. Krillin kinda elaborates on this after Piccolo departs the team to see Kami, explaining the shared history will be why they'll become so powerful. RELATED: Dragon Ball: 5 DC Heroes Piccolo Can Defeat (& 5 He Can't) The Nameless Namekian went from being the Namekian prodigy to being weaker than dogshit by Namekian standards when he split into Kami and Daimao. A list of power levels from Weekly Jump #31, 1989. Saonel and Pirina had to fuse with potentially hundreds of fellow Namekians to even stand a chance against Piccolo. We and our partners will store and/or access information on your device through the use of cookies and similar technologies, to display personalised ads and content, for ad and content measurement, audience insights and product development. Piccolo Jr.'s outfit when he w… 3 years later, Piccolo and the Z Fighter unite to fight against the Androids. Kami is significantly weaker than Piccolo, he couldn't even compete with him in the Piccolo Jr saga. Note: Piccolo after fusing with Kami says that he has long forgotten his name and just to refer to him as the namek but I wonder what his original name actually is. Information about your device and internet connection, including your IP address, Browsing and search activity while using Verizon Media websites and apps. The Nameless Namekian is special, that's wh the bost he got was so impressive.. The evil half was reborn and trained up from dogshit to being impressive to the best warrior on Namek. Great Namek In this state Piccolo transforms into a giant version of himself, greatly increasing in size, strength, weight and speed. Kami-sama was at most around the level of Piccolo Daimaou before he wished to be young again (with a battle power around 250). The best example of the prodigy the Nameless Namekian is and how special he is compared to the rest of his race is the fight with the Universe 6 Namekians. Super Namek After re-fusing with Kami, Piccolo powers up to levels well beyond any of the existing Warrior Namekians ever before. Combine that with the fact that they were originally the same being, and the whole merging was just that more potent. After fusing with Kami Piccolo became roughly equal to Androids 17 and 18. The increase didn't shoot him very far, yes he was stronger than the Super Saiyans and initially Cell's first form, but couldn't quite surpass 17 and 18. On his robe he has a red colored kanji that means \"God\". In the year following the events on Namek, Piccolo stayed mostly to himself, though he had further presence in the company of Nail. the fact that he reunited again into a Warrior Clan body might have contributed to the big powerboost aswell. I mean, Saonel and Pirina were around half of Ultimate Gohan's power each, that is, around half of SSB Goku. Due to the level of his extraordinary powers in this form, Piccolo is able to easily defeat and surpass the power of a Super Saiyan. Piccolo's power skyrocketed. Once he got his nerfs removed and potential back he skyrocketed in stats and ability. His power level was 1,000,000 When he fused with Nail his power level shot up to 1,042,000 Namekian fusion don't work that way. All of it was stemming from Nail. The best comparison would be the Legendary Super Saiyan to the Saiyans and Frieza compared to his father and the rest of his race. Piccolo and Kami used to be an entirely different person, whose name is still unknown. When King Piccolo died and spat out Piccolo JR. JR was kinda sorta obsessed with vengeance. His presence is very important, not only for his incredible power level but also for the calmness he brings to the picture. Even if were the strongest warriors on Universe 6's Namek, they could have been no stronger then Nail before they merged with most of the population of their Namek. He was created after the battle between Goku and Demon King Piccolo (his father), when Goku made a hole through King Piccolo's stomach using "Penetrate! You can change your choices at any time by visiting Your Privacy Controls. ", which killed him. Piccolo's power did not increase drastically between the Cell saga and the Buu saga, but he still remained a powerful fighter. This is a list of known and official Power Levels (戦闘力, Sentōryoku, lit.Combat Power) in the Dragon Ball universe.All of the levels on this list are taken from the manga, anime, movies, movie pamphlets, Daizenshuu guides, video games and stated mathematical calculations. Piccolo Fused with Kami. Piccolo (ピッコロ・ジュニア Pikkoro Junia), is a Namekian, and the once evil counterpart of Kami. According to the Grand Elder, nothing less then a Super Saiyan should have killed the Nameless Namekian had his full potential been reached, and Nail implied that had Piccolo reunited with Kami and been reborn as the Nameless Namekian, he would have defeated Frieza with ease. soon afterwards the Androids he warned them about appear and easily overpower the Z Fighters. Piccolo uniting with Kami. I can think of a few reasons which I'm sure are the … When Piccolo Jr. is introduced, he appears roughly the same as King Piccolo, but with a more solid facial structure (lacking the large cheek bones and a humanly-shaped nose), as well as slightly thinner and a bit shorter (though technically he doesn't appear as a full grown adult until Z). Tier: 5-A | High 5-A, Low 4-C during Lord Slug | Low 4-C, At least High 4-C after fusing with Nail | 4-B, higher after fusing with Kami, 4-A after training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber | 4-A | At least 3-C The Rules:Note: Goku wasn't necessarily "weaker" during the Android Saga. To Be Added Am I the only one who kind of wanted Piccolo to get a new look at some point? Merging however brought them to a power to rival Freeza's second form, a level exceeding one million. Then he fused with that guy and reached a level comparable to a super saiyan. So, while they proved to be somewhat stronger then Piccolo, it took them fusing with hundreds of fellow Namekians to match the strength of the United Nameless Namekian and the boost he also got from Nail. If Kami did fuse with him the dragonballs would disappear. Look at Piccolo and Nail, for example, where Nail wasn't any higher than 42,000 and Piccolo, while strong, was likely only in the low ten thousands at best as well. He would have killed 17 if the fight continued. During the Android Saga, Kami, fearful of the power of the oncoming threat, agrees to unite with Piccolo once again. Piccolo Daimao wrote:After merging with God, Piccolo gained tremendous power, but he also gained his knowledge and memories.I don't think God influenced him that much, although, as we can see, it was probably God's respect for Kaioshin that made him tremble when Kibito told him that "Shin" was Kaioshin. However, when he laid Piccolo Jr, he made him a Warrior-class Namekian. Piccolo turned to face Kami, frustration marring his face. Powers and Stats. The original Nameless Namekian was supposed to be on that level...yet the half that split off..weaker than dog shit with nerfed base stats and potential...reached that far. Find out more about how we use your information in our Privacy Policy and Cookie Policy. After fusing with Nail, Piccolo is referred to as a Super Namek. It is more of an assimilation (the alternate title of this type of fusion) than fusion, as one Namekian absorbs the energy, strength, memories, and intelligence or thought pattern of another. Something I want to add to this is that the Nameless Namekian was considered a prodigy to his people. Krillin called him a "Super Namek" because of his new and extraordinary powers, able to far eclipse the strength of an untrained Super Saiyan. Kami was a member of the Dragon Clan, as was King Piccolo after Kami expunged the evil from his body and inadvertently created him. But because Kami-sama is half of Piccolo Daimaou, Piccolo merging with him doubled his power (which at that point was comparable to Super Saiyan Vegeta), which gave him enough power to match Artificial Human No. Piccolo got a huge power boost when he fused with Neil, so if you add to that the original half of piccolo you get another great boost. Their fusion resulted in beings much stronger than Piccolo's original strength as the Nameless Namekian, he had to train for years to reach the level the U6 Namekians were at after fusing with most of their people. Namekian fusion is never a matter of simple addition or anything of the sorts. But he also knew that if he didn't fuse with Kami he would die anyway and the dragonballs would still diappear. Also fusions tend to increase the power a lot. However, I also thought that he would then be able to become much stronger now that he became a whole being and more...but obviously Toriyama didn't see it that way. The Namekians felt he alone deserved to live even if the others were wiped out by the disaster on Namek. Fine, After King Piccolo and Kami were once a Super Namekian, like Lord Slug, meaning they probably had much higher power level than most of their kind. Tier: Low 6-B | 5-B | 5-B, High 5-A after fusing with Nail | Low 4-C, 4-C after fusing with Kami, High 4-C after training in the Hyperbolic Time Chamber | At least High 4-C | High 4-C | 3-A Name:Piccolo Junior / Ma Junior, Demon King Piccolo, the Nameless Namekian Origin: Dragon Ball Age: 3 - 31 (physically 32) at the end of Dragon Ball Z Gender:Genderless, though referred to as male Classification:Namekian Powers and Abilities: Master Martial Artist, Superhuman Physical Characteristics, Acrobatics, Magic, True Flight, Ki … Overview. Finally, Kami gave in and fused with Piccolo. Going by the boost he got from fusing with Kami... Kamiccolo (Buu arc): 1,200,000,000 Kamiccolo Daimao: 2,400,000,000 Fat Buu Initial: 6,000,000,000 After struggling to be useful on the field due to him lacking enough power to compete with his enemies, Piccolo strikes back after fusing with Kami, ready to help his allies thanks to his all new capabilities. The Nameless Namekian was Dragon Clan right? This meant that King Piccolo was technically still a Dragon Clan-type Namekian, and retained those additional abilities. Keep in mind Piccolo wasn't a weak person before uniting with Kami, he was nearly on par to the Super Saiyans (he may have been equal to Trunks), more powerful than Tien and Gohan, even overpowered Dr. Gero. Freiza, but when they split and piccolo was made, how was piccolo defeated by kid goku who was less than a 300 power level, when frieza was over 1 mil. Both participants must willingly consent to fuse in this manner and usually the pair agrees to the stronger of the two to serve their body as the host; the reason for this consent is that the body of the absorbed Namekian disappears during this fusion and th… Piccolo (Fused w/Kami Full Power) 330,000,000 Piccolo (Cell Games) Piccolo (After the Hyperbolic Time Chamber) 1.3 Billion Piccolo (Full Power) 1.65 Billion World Tournament 7 Years Later. Piccolo and Kami didnt do the same type of fusion that Piccolo and Nail did. So why does Piccolo get a power boost that puts him on par with androids when he absorbs Kami? After Piccolo re-fused with Kami, he powers up to levels well beyond any of the existing Warrior-type Namekians ever before. Kami is a Namekian with wrinkly skin. Despite being with the Z-Fighters for a while now, Piccolo was not always a good guy. The nameless Namek who was sent to earth as a child wanted to become Kami but was unable to because of evil in his heart, so he split his evil out into its own entity, the original Piccolo. When they merge, It's more a re-unification, the power result is far more powerful because they are each now complete. Yeah, the boost Piccolo had when fusing with Kami was arguably much smaller than the one he got from Nail since he was already around the original Super Saiyan level. He was almost equal to 17. By using our Services or clicking I agree, you agree to our use of cookies. Yahoo is part of Verizon Media. I always looked at it as Piccolo being half a person with half the potential. 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