With a permit number (your’s or some else’s), you can drive down the street to local lab supply house, and bring home a case of gallons of alcohol. Or just small enough quantity to be allowed? It has too much water in it, and prevent absorption of shellac into wood. That s just silly pine chopper. If the online information regarding Isopropyl is fuzzy, then buy some and try it (on scrap, not on a project). Everclear is a good possibility too. Usually, this technique of tinting shellac is used when new flooring is installed in a home that already has shellacked flooring. | Copyright :(. For any of these options, YOU will have to search and find what avenue works for you. Anyone attempting to spray paint cars from home shop has similar ‘banned’ solvent issues. By Any advice would be great! Questions like this make me so happy I moved out of that ShitHole state years ago. We just don’t know which half! I’ve come across many professional finishers, however, who believe they should be using shellac rather than the finish itself, a sanding sealer, vinyl sealer or a catalyzed sealer for a first coat. I like how it looks over dyed figured wood and really like the amber over torched pine. The use of so much methanol is one reason that standard off the shelf DNA is not very good at dissolving shellac flakes. Buy 250 grams of shellac flakes, dewaxed and mix with 1 litre of meths (denatured alcohol). | After the shellac dries, a light scuff-sand will leave an excellent surface for the poly to grip. That’s $15-25 per quart of ethanol, Plus cost of pot still, cooling water, cooking fuel, AND felony charge/fines for producing alcohol illegally for sale to friends. Sanding knocks down the grain and creates … Bulls Eye Shellac is pre-mixed in a 3 lb. Thin light coats is the trick. If I have to make my own moonshine so be it. This method is alcohol free and easy. backpacking stoves use either: - sealed canisters filled with butane/propane- white gas- unleaded gas. And then there’s the subject of mixing up a batch of aniline dye… I prefer alcohol to water but at least water is a viable option here. I used wet/dry P400 on my last project. I still thin these down to about a 2lb cut as it applies easier. Rating: 4.5 (23 votes) By Mary Smith. I was pretty sure there would be cold hard facts about what to do in California out there but apparently nobody actually has those. LOL. I have not experimented with other oils like BLO but Tru Oil is basically that. Don’t get me started… I really don’t want this to turn into a political thread though, but I hear you. You can post now and register later. geeg Judge Gigi-Honorary Geek. Merely an effort stating how to execute or perform a certain task" . The City of San Francisco refuses to stop the homeless from leaving it all over their city streets. Note: I am not suggesting you break EPA laws. Clear editor. Like Paul, I spray, and hell yeah, damn happy to clean the gun , but I have read...the hand job guys... sometimes cut the shellac with rubbing alcohol (contains water which evaporates slower) to slow the dry. I have used Ammonia to thin shellac with success. But that’s not necessarily so. Even if it’s not, that’s what I would do. Does anybody know if you can thin down shellac?for example the white,as it has gone quite thick. Powered by Invision Community. of shellac resin per gallon of alcohol). I am using some amber shellac on a vanity, and having a hard time getting a good finish because it tacks up so quickly. Fry’s Electronics sells quarts. You’ll hear shellac tossed around a lot as the “best” sealer, mostly in woodworking magazines targeting amateurs. Redding also has a Home Depot, so out of curiosity I went there to see what they had. Should I just live with Zinsser at full-strength (don’t really want to do that) or switch to another easy-ish finish like wipe-on poly? For example, adding 2 oz. Great question. Updated: January 20, 2017. In our shop the coolest place, outside the fridge, in hot weather is on the cement slab under the bench. Latest Blog Entries | If you want to use DNA banned for personal use at home, you have to either follow EPA law and get a permit, or skirt around the laws one of several ways already mentioned. Hughes Co., Inc. has a bunch of CA stores and sells the TechSpray brand of 99% IPA as flux cleaner.Green Products in Richmond, CA sells if for cleaning: https://greenproductsco.net/NuGenTec MAKES IPA in Emeryville, CA near Oakland? next » Best solvent for shellac is and always has been ethanol alcohol, not methanol alcohol. Depending on the use, there might be a better product anyway. Sand the table by hand with 220-grit sandpaper when the sanding sealer dries, usually about 30 minutes. Step 1 Pour half of the lacquer into a clean gallon can. Kind of sucks that I have to sit in traffic for 2 hours in pothole filled roads past gross polluting factory farms, get out of my car and then walk over 35 typhus infested homeless tents to get to the hardware store just to find out that the priority was outlawing rubbing alcohol. Also was probably going to use it for some plywood garage cabinets. I know the pest is a flea, flee market was what I wanted to do the one time I was dragged to one out there. By far the number one selling fuel for backpackers is called ISOPRO. I am a fan of the thin it way down and slop on multiple coats with a brush method. Haven’t read the latest CA rules on alcohol, but for the other industrial solvents that CA ‘banned’ from home use in past; the rules are that only an CalEPA permitted facility may buy, store, or use regulated hazardous substances; unless there is exemption granted. 2) Banning of DNA has been resolved with IPA as substitute, sources have been provided. He may not do as much work but that's because he will find a better way. Paste as plain text instead, × DNA is kind of an irresponsible product to begin with if you ask me. Don’t think that thought hasn’t crossed my mind… lol. Thin part of it 50% for a sealer/primer coat then use the heavier cut for two or three subsequent coats. Anyone can afford solvent waste pails, and flammable storage cabinet. Wood finishing folks are not only people having issues. We all know that sh!+ isn’t allowed in the state of California because it is a known carcinogen in .000013% of the wooly bearded jellyfish that migrate past the state every 18th year in November. There is no sense in limiting yourself (Don W) - - - - - - - - Kenny in SW VA. Good question. Let the lacquer dry on the wood for 30 minutes. Even the small pods will burn long enough to cook for 2 or 3 people for a week. Dissolving and thinning shellac Shellac flakes are dissolved with alcohol. So to reduce the cost, which is largely the result of taxes, some methanol is often added to make the … So unless home is permitted facility, is it technically banned. It might be easier to take a vacation to another state and buy a few gallons of denatured alcohol. javajake, Just have to read, and follow the rules. Many shades of shellac. OK well thanks for all the input guys, but the picture is still muddy… extremely unclear. Latest Forum Topics, http://www.kleanstrip.com/product/green-denatured-alcohol, https://www.mohawk-finishing.com/mhk_cds/product_msds/M650-0057.pdf, https://www.calrecycle.ca.gov/SWFacilities/Permitting/CEQA/, https://www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Grade-Denatured-Ethyl-Alcohol-95/dp/B07Q23H8P4, http://thecanadianschooloffrenchmarquetry.com/, https://www.amazon.com/Isopropyl-Alcohol-Grade-Anhydrous-gallon/dp/B01MEGQ9Q0, Stumpy Nubs Woodworking Journal- For woodworkers of all levels (part 6). Hmm… $12 a quart though. Go to the liquor store and buy Everclear. Violations can result in massive fines, and even jail time after lengthy legal trial. Thanks Paul, think we have some of them horse stores in this area? i am not a fan of the “high gloss” look. Did you try to find any?R.S. Glad i moved from California in 2001. Who cares if the liberals in California take away Denatured Alcohol. I was going to use shellac on my next large project of building a pair of barn doors for covering up a large 60” wide opening in the entryway of our house into our library, which can get messy from time to time and we also want to use it as a guest room from time to time. I see that my local LOWES still sells DNA, though. 1 2 If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. Shellac does best when applied in thin coats. Using the ‘green’ version DNA gives much better results using flake shellac. DISCLAIMER: Any posts on LJ are posted by individuals acting in their own right and do not necessarily reflect the views of LJ. .... so in other words…. We all know that sh!+ isn t allowed in the state of California . Shrug…. The idea here is to overall keep it thin, while also laying down coats than can be built up. 72 replies. -- I collect hobbies. Again, way too much trouble. You do not have the tack problems with it. Anecdotal suggestions of things to try are not helpful, they only further cloud the issue. Problem is 99.9% technical grade (or 200 proof) is only sold at laboratory supply, and 95% pure grade called 190 proof grain alcohol is hard to find at many liqueur stores. Nothing ‘Anecdotal’ about suggested alternatives, sources offered, or how to use regulated solvents in CA?Color me insulted. I know that logic would suggest that if one is illegal, so is the other. We all know that sh!+ isn t allowed in the state of California because it is a known carcinogen in .000013% of the wooly bearded jellyfish that migrate past the state every 18th year in November. BTW – will Amazon ship lab grade DNA to CA?https://www.amazon.com/Laboratory-Grade-Denatured-Ethyl-Alcohol-95/dp/B07Q23H8P4. Sure, per-ounce, it is more expensive than a quart of SealCoat, but very handy. The instructions on the can will indicate that you can apply a water-based clear coat right over an oil-based stain if the stain has thoroughly cured. -- For every expert, there is an equal and opposite expert. I can’t find any definitive answers anywhere. It extends shelf life and prevents reaction with metal cans. I went to lowe’s in Redding Ca today for other reasons, but I thought I would check on the DNA situation. Methanol is faster than ethanol and totally useless. YIKES!! :lol: :lol: :lol: Bulls eye makes a thinned version of the amber to apply as a first coat. Costs aren’t too high either for that efficiency, low weight and overall size. Level sand if required. Everyone who moved away from California to their utopia gimme a break all states have stupid rules and laws. Hmm… what about this?https://www.mohawk-finishing.com/mhk_cds/product_msds/M650-0057.pdf, -- Half of what we read or hear about finishing is right. Denatured alcohol is not available in Canada either. Another thought is, in California some thing are only banned in certain zip codes. Work the pad in gentle, irregular patterns rather than only going with the grain. i am not a fan of the “high gloss” look. I have used both brands interchangeably without a second thought. The only reason to thin a water based stainer is to slow the application time down. Thank You x . Try making pyrotechnic devices in Peoples Republic of Kalifornia.You have no idea the complexity of EPA laws until you make something that goes boom, shipping weight of 50lbs, and it is full of various poisons. Lowe’s usually carries Crown brand DNA, it has glass cleaner printed on the label. Most commercial stove fuel is denatured alcohol. I would say you need to just experiment with some alternatives. I’ve never really worked with wipe-on Poly… can I get good results with that or is it brush on or don’t bother? You can, of course, easily thin down a thick shellac. You want it thin enough to flow well from the brush, but thick enough to resist sagging and running. Level sand if required. Or will they continue to carry it, only time will tell. Lower the shellac sheen to matte by rubbing lightly with #0000 steel wool and paste wax. There are a bunch of others as well. But then so are you once the solvents have completely evaporated. It’s all about controlling and taxing how environment is contaminated, not stopping it.Materials are never really ‘banned’. What happens is the cost of storage, usage, air discharge, and disposal, gets so high; you can’t afford to use them unless there is absolutely no other choice on planet. For small areas, Tru Oil is nice for finishing guitars and decorative fronts of guitar amps. Need to carefully check the MSDS/SDS on denatured alcohol (DNA) when you buy it.Methanol alcohol is cheaper, and many home store brands use 40%+ methanol. It’s not going to stop me or anyone who’s determined to use it. The extreme of “this and everything else is known by the experts of the state of California to cause the moon to explode” aside, it sounds like time to set up a still, and to make some fellow shellac fan friends. The company has a complete line of ultralight, super high efficient burner tops that work on their fuel pods.. ISOPRO is made up of 20% propane and 80% isobutane. OK so what if all I really wanted to do is thin out the cans of Zinsser and not mix my own? Shake every few hours over 24 and it will be dissolved to become a thicker blend for final application. . After that you can just apply a a regular coat of the amber. Hmm?Get about 2 gallons of ~15% alcohol ‘mash’ from a 20lb bag of sugar, costing ~$20; plus ~$5 of turbo yeast.Distilled that produces ~38oz (just over a quart) of 200 proof alcohol.Grain mash is about 2/3 cost of pure sugar alcohol. When the shellac is drying too fast due to heat, low humidity, or excessive airflow, add just enough shellac retarder to enable easy application and flow-out. Step 2 Pour 1 pint of lacquer thinner into the can and mix it in with a flat stick. Would thinning it make it easier or harder to get a coat on before it tacks up? The problem with using ethanol for dissolving and thinning shellac is that it’s quite expensive (think Everclear that you buy at the liquor store). Guess that explains why L.V. Well the Woodcraft website says “Not available to ship to California” for the “Green” DNA… so strike one on that. -- Paul M ..............the early bird may get the worm but it’s the second mouse that gets the cheese! Common Finishes That Might Need to Be Thinned The traditional finishes include lacquer, shellac, oil-based polyurethane, and oil-based varnish. — Bob Flexner. I thinned the poly, and I cant believe how much easier it … I know of many amateur pyro’s in CA, that have permit covering back yard area with picnic table for making stuff, with a small storage shed full of regulated materials next to it. But the standard stuff works for diluting premixed shellac, as it also has a blend of solvents. I have used it for both brushing and French polishing and find it excellent. I like shellac just because it is super easy to work with. It would be a LOT of work to use it on larger pieces unless there is an easier way than rub it in hard in many (like 11 to 13) light coats. This technique works only when padding on the shellac, much like one would do when French polishing. The best source I have found for large volumes (gallons) has been feed stores who sell it as horse liniment.Methanol is faster than ethanol and totally useless. cut of shellac is 2 lb. So, the long and short of it guys is that anything over 151 proof (75%) and anything that is “denatured alcohol” no matter how they label it, is not available to the general consumer here. If you have a friend that owns, runs, manages inside a small company with EPA permit; ask them if you can piggy back some solvents on their permit. At least three to four layers of … While gel nail polish will last longer than traditional nail polish, it … is back ordered on there Shellac thinner? Recoat as required until you’re happy with the finished look. The challenge is paperwork, and costs of permitted waste disposal. 1) DNA can still be found on shelf in some CA home stores and will be until they sell out. If you wipe and get streaks at all, remember that you can sand it nicely to a glass smooth surface with P400. With the use of eye dropper, add small amount of gel polish thinner into the bottle of the gel polish. It is only banned for sale to individuals who do not possess proper permits.Which means average homeowner can’t get it from hardware store any more. Which you are required to do, when you have a permit. ©2021 Verticalscope Inc. All Rights Reserved. Kills the nubs and bumps. You take pure alcohol and intentionally add poison to it all in the name of taxation. And I never had a problem doing so. Is labeling the difference between being able to sell the DNA in Ca.? But I went to ACE hardware and bought a gallon of “Alcohol Fuel”. Isopropanol is a little slower and as such flows a little better but still dries very quickly.Try it, you ll like it.- shipwright. Make sure that you stir the mixture thoroughly to dissolve the shellac. To remedy this, thin it with lacquer thinner. SOL? What I am saying is there are ways to follow the EPA laws, and occasionally they might step upon a grey area of the regulations? That’s just silly pine chopper. :). - Big corporations frown upon you using their EPA permits for home projects, but it can be done as long you don’t get caught, or have understanding management. Just note that most of the shellacs you get are 3 or 4 pound cuts. And the shelves were bare of DNA. After all that I’m not sure I even want to risk bringing it in the next time I go to visit family in another state. Use denatured alcohol to thin shellac; use alcohol or ammonia for cleanup. It looks like I can’t get that Mohawk stuff either. The oil allows the cloth to flow over the shellac without any drag or noticeable lap marks. They had DNA, so I bought 2 gallons. Would thinning it make it easier or harder to get a coat on before it tacks up? But they have always shipped to me so far. Definitely worth a try. Before applying the shellac ‘condition’ your brush by dipping it in solvent and letting the solvent run off. Plus it cuts through shellac so fast I wouldn’t be surprised if it destroys it.Good Luck to everyone, If they criminilize DNA only criminals will use DNA. When mixing shellac from flakes or buttons, you can scale down the ratio of cut to make a suitable amount. 2) Find a permitted facility and use their permits to cover your activity. They exist, if you look around the web. It has been a banned substance here far longer than DNA. × Spray it, thats the easiest way to work with Shellac that I've found. FWIW – Besides medical supplies, Tech grade Isopropanol is sold at electronics stores as cleaning agent. Unfortunately, Everclear is not an option.   Your link has been automatically embedded. Can you get it shipped to CA from online source?   Your previous content has been restored. This happens either because we did not close it properly last time or because it has remained uncovered for some time. Knowing what I know about Cali, I’d think it’s readily available at the Flee Market. Latest Projects | May be applied at container consistency if desired. I already had almost 2 full gallons so this should last me for awhile. Avoid placing the pad directly down onto the wood and rubbing. I have used and in some applications prefer isopropanol which is readily available. Possibly the most accurate appraisal of that place. Agree on the denatured alcohol for thinning, works well. SHELLAC RETARDER-The HOT Weather additive. Never tried it...........like anything in woodworking/finishing applying shellac by hand takes practice. I imagine like liquor in dry counties in Kentucky, it comes in unmarked containers. The exact ratio of alcohol to flakes (referred to as the pound-cut) isn’t critical. I just don’t think all the trouble is worth it. What do climbers and hikers burn in their cook stoves? Due I think to population density. -- Nathan, TX -- Hire the lazy man. But many small shops have permits, that are nothing more than an exemption since they use amounts to small to monitor and control. I have zero connections here.4) try and get some of that stuff at Fry’s or another electronics supply house, but again, a lot of trouble to go through and pretty darn expensive5) try and find something at a farm/feed supply store. Maybe if you are not willing to try alternate sources? August 30, 2010 in Finishing. That appears to just be DNA with butanol added. If you don’t want to add anything to the bottle a great alternative for thinning it out is to run the bottle under hot water or close it well and place in a bowl of hot water for just a few seconds. When starting out, you may want to stick with darker shellacs on darker woods (use garnet to spice up kiln-dried walnut) and lighter shellacs on light woods (blonde flakes add a hint of color to maple), but as you’ll soon discover, shellac can serve as an effective dye toner. of shellac resin dissolved in a gallon of alcohol. Reference: https://www.shellac.net/alcohol.html, -- If it wasn't for bad luck, I wouldn't have no luck at all, - Albert King - Born Under a Bad Sign released 1967. For finish coats, thin 1 part 4-pound shellac with 2 parts alcohol. Joined Jan 12, 2003 Messages 32,641 Reaction score 1,033 Location Benissa, Costa Blanca, Spain. If you want to find a list of permit holders in your area, it is on the CalEPA site. Practice nail care at home. :-(0). So when using thinned down blends like this, each coat will dry in under a minute, and the next coat can go on right … I’m guessing some smaller shops probably still have some in stock. After each drop, make sure to shake it … They should rename them as a law free zone. Here is Kleen strip DNA ingredients, with 50-55% methanol:.Here is Crown DNA, it shows 70-75% methanol alcohol:..Here is the green low VOC ingredient list, with 3-7% methanol:.BTW – the ethyl acetate and or MIBK is used as stabilizer. Terms of Service Often we go to take that nail polish that we like so much and are find that it has dried slightly or has become thickened. The solvents will be more expensive than a can at BORG, but you can get them.BTW – Just don’t attempt to buy anything on the Federal Homeland Security list of restricted materials, I.E. Fry s Electronics sells quarts. Thanks for that tip! Display as a link instead, × Some people prefer to pulverize their shellac with a grinder used for coffee beans. What is all the trouble? The best way though is to spray it if you can.   Pasted as rich text. I have noticed when I have ordered certain “hazardous materials” from Amazon, they will have a disclaimer stating something to the effect this item cannot be shipped to all zip codes in Ca. It’s 190 proof (95% alcohol) where DNA is Ethanol (pure alcohol) with additives to make it non-potable. To darken the clear shellac, mix the amber shellac to it. For best application results thin shellac before using. BTDTGTTS. Some really small folks are allowed to use standard solid waste (hehe). That level of efficient heat has never been had by other compounds. PPS – Knowing your alcohols is important when you hang around with a bunch of chemical engineers that serve ethanol blended drinks are parties. Wipe the wax off immediately, before it dries, to maintain a flat finish. Step 3 Pour the thinned lacquer into the spray gun and test it by spraying it on some scrap wood. You could not be more wrong! LJ will not be held liable for the actions of any user. A 5-lb. OK, the key word here is cloth. I do love a good excuse to drive to the bay area and visit Fry’s. drug making, explosive making, etc). cut would be 5 lb. Home Depot carries Clean Strip DNA, it has fuel printed on the label. My local Home Despot and Lowes no longer carry DNA in their paint department. It may be for some, but not for me. As an aside, I usually buy an aerosol can of shellac for quick touch ups and small projects. You also thin liquid shellac with alcohol. So it isn’t a good idea to use methanol unless you are working with a good exhaust. of resin dissolved in a gallon, etc. No. For a quick, thin, matte finish, flood the wood with shellac, then wipe off the excess while it’s still wet. Find one or maybe try an Ace or True Value Hardware store and get some while you can. There are a bazillion feed stores around me here in the heart of Central California. Isopropanol is a little slower and as such flows a little better but still dries very quickly.Try it, you’ll like it. Or, as I do, you can mix your own. In other words, you purchasing it out of state and bringing it back home may be perfectly legal. I have been following this thread as I live in Cottonwood Ca. Another issue is due alcohol consumption taxes, it is most expensive shellac solvent to procure....- CaptainKlutz. I always spray shellac (sometimes all over me, but that's another story). this reminds me that i have some everclear in the liquor cabinet that i should make some jungle juice with. If you want regulated materials at home, it can happen. BTDTGTTS- Small companies have more lenient permits due lower usage volumes. :-), How do I know this? This is similar to what I pay for Kleen Strip Green DNA I use for thinning shellac?https://www.amazon.com/Isopropyl-Alcohol-Grade-Anhydrous-gallon/dp/B01MEGQ9Q0Gallons sell for $28- $30. It’s all part of the craft When the gets narrowed you just play the hand your dealt.I don’t think I’d try Ammonia it’s too nasty. Another issue is due alcohol consumption taxes, it is most expensive shellac solvent to procure. Store your shellac, tightly stoppered or sealed, in a cool dark location. Shellac and Wax. After the additives, it is probably roughly the same % alcohol as Everclear. I use a magnetic stirring gizmo. Shellac is about right. Are they just selling out what they have? You can thin the shellac by adding solvent; this will make it easier to lay down the shellac. In AZ, anything to slow evaporation is a bonus. In general a "2 Pound Cut" is a good place to start. Would the highest % isopropyl I can buy at the drug store work ok for that? Shellac is about right. Great question. Thinned shellac is recommended for sealer coats. OK, I’ve had a gallon of DNA for a some number of months, but haven’t been into a hardware store in the last 5 weeks because of foot surgery. Not sure what the purpose of the butanol is but I’d say it’s worth a shot if that’s still legal for you to buy! 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